About this podcast

Dive deep into the fascinating early history of Apple with this episode of The Vergecast, the flagship podcast of third-party operating systems. Host David Pierce chats with Laine Nooney, author of 'The Apple II Age: How The Computer Became Personal,' exploring how the iconic Apple II transformed computing and made it personal in the 1970s. The discussion sheds light on the socio-economic context of the era and the '1977 Trinity' of personal computers. Later, David reviews The Verge's new documentary, 'Lisa’s Final Act,' which examines how Apple buried its past to invent its future with the Lisa computer. The episode concludes with a practical hotline question: how to seamlessly transfer playlists between Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, and Tidal.