About this podcast

Join Lex Fridman in a captivating conversation with David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH), the visionary programmer behind Ruby on Rails and co-founder/CTO of 37signals, creators of Basecamp, HEY, and ONCE. DHH, also a New York Times best-selling author of influential books like REWORK and REMOTE, and a Le Mans-winning race car driver, dives deep into a myriad of fascinating subjects. This episode explores the evolution of programming, from JavaScript and the Ruby programming language to building beautiful code, metaprogramming, and dynamic typing. DHH shares insights on scaling software, the future of programming and AI, and his unique philosophy on 'vibe coding'. The discussion extends to modern work culture, criticizing traditional management, advocating for small teams, and challenging the toxicity of meetings. DHH provides a powerful case against retirement and reflects on the value of hard work. He also details 37signals' decision to leave the cloud, discussing AWS and the benefits of owning your own servers. Beyond technology and business, DHH offers his perspectives on figures like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Apple, and Tim Sweeney, alongside personal reflections on fatherhood, racing, and his optimal programming setup. Discover his thoughts on open-source, the WordPress saga, and the intricate relationship between money and happiness. This comprehensive interview with one of the tech world's most influential minds offers invaluable wisdom for programmers, entrepreneurs, and anyone interested in the intersection of technology, philosophy, and life.